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Title: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 14, 2010, 07:00:56 AM
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BOSS NOSS has offered us here at Raptor Source a HUGE discount on their NOS setup.




 Here's what we've come up with for a group buy. We need to get 10 people that want to do this. BOSS NOSS has come up with an awesome price and discount for accessories at the time of the purchase. Remember, this is a complete system with no additional items that need to be purchased: No gauges, no bottle heaters, no bottle blanket, etc. Our systems are the most complete out of the box systems in the world. Please check further down for why BOSS NOSS is better!

We can keep a list of members that want to buy systems and how many they want, if applicable. There is no limit to how many anyone can order, the more the merrier. Once the deadline hits, BOSS NOSS will get the systems shipped. If we can hit the minimum order amount before the deadline, they'll start shipping early.



Details:
$599 per single ATV Nitrous System - Retail $799
10% off at the time of purchase on Accessories (extra bottles, nozzles, etc)
Deadline: Oct 10th, 2010
Any Horsepower level to 60hp
Offer Code: 081310


I asked Jeremy at BOSS NOSS to give me a reason why I should buy their system over the others. So he gave me 10.

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10 Reasons to buy BOSS NOSS over the competition:
1.   Advanced Technology
2.   Regulation – Consistency
3.   N.P.F.I
4.   Pre-Assembled
5.   Complete System
6.   No additional gauges/hardware
7.   No tuning
8.   Efficient
9.   User Friendly
10.   Factory Direct Support

Advanced Technology
Existing nitrous kits on the market are using 50-year-old technology. Variable bottle pressures, inefficient mixing heads and fading horsepower levels make current systems obsolete. BOSS NOSS uses the most advanced technology on the market to provide a consistent and efficient system that takes the guesswork out and all that remains is HORSEPOWER!

Regulation
BOSS NOSS is the only company that provides 100% nitrous regulation in all our systems. Regulation gives BOSS systems the ability to provide a consistent blast of nitrous throughout the entire pull with no fading due to variable nitrous/fuel ratios. Any kit on the market that is not regulated is second rate, not capable of providing the dependable horsepower you deserve.

N.P.F.I

Nitrous Powered Fuel Injector – The worlds first fuel injector powered by BOSS’ regulated nitrous flow. The NPFI uses the nitrous to siphon the exact amount of fuel, mix it with the nitrous and inject it into the engine. The NPFI does the work of a fuel pump, fuel solenoid, fuel nozzle, nitrous nozzle and mixing head. Eliminating all those components removes the possible failure point of an overcomplicated inefficient system.

Pre-Assembled
BOSS NOSS systems come pre-assembled, removing the tedious task of lining up parts and soldiering wires. All you have to do with a BOSS NOSS system is mount the NPFI, mount the Smart Box and bottle, run the power wires and then enjoy your system. BOSS NOSS has taken the headache out of designing and installing a nitrous system.

Complete System
It's a complete system with no additional items that need to be purchased: No gauges, no bottle heaters, no bottle blanket, etc.


No Additional Accessories Required

With other kits, you will need bottle warmers, gauges, regulators and an assortment of jets to fine-tune the kit. BOSS has developed a system that you will only need to fill your bottle to enjoy. BOSS has included or made obsolete most other accessories needed to have a complete nitrous system.

No Tuning
With BOSS NOSS, the tuning is done at the time of the order. The NPFI is built for your horsepower level and it does the rest. It will meter the exact amount of fuel needed for your horsepower shot, eliminating timely and costly jetting and tuning changes.

Efficient
Performing or functioning in the best possible manner with the least waste of time and effort measures efficiency. With a BOSS NOSS system, you don’t have the downtime of tuning or assembling a system. Regulating your nitrous pressure, BOSS NOSS uses more available nitrous in the system, allowing you to run longer with each bottle fill-up.

User Friendly

BOSS NOSS is truly a user-friendly system. Because of the simplicity of the BOSS system, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist with a degree in Chemical Engineering to harness nitrous to go faster! With only a few simple parts to install and understand, BOSS NOSS works for everyone.

Factory Direct Support

At BOSS Industries, we strive to build the most complete, efficient, safe and powerful nitrous system in the world. Trained technicians are available to assist you with any questions or concerns you might have. We also enjoy hearing about your victories at the sand dunes or drag strips. We are available by phone, Mon-Fri from 9am-5pm MST (801-794-0307) and always by email: info@bossnoss.com.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 14, 2010, 08:20:23 AM
If anyone has been considering Nitrous for their Raptor (or any ATV for that matter), this is a great opportunity. Nitrous can be a difficult thing to sell because of the last 50 years of bad press and movies that have done more harm than good to such a great technology. Please ask any questions you may have and I'll do my best to answer them! Let's get 10 users on this before Oct.

As well, please take a moment to check out our video's on BOSSNOSS.com. They do a good job of explaining just how simple and consistent our system is compared to anyone else out there.

http://www.boss-noss.com/atv

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 14, 2010, 01:36:25 PM
Hmmm....very tempting. 

What do you guys think the largest SAFE shot would be on a 3 mod (dual exhuast, GYTR Filter and PCIII) Raptor 700?

Lately I have been spending a lot of time near the drag strip at the dunes, and I would love to be able to crack a bottle and help me keep up with some of the faster quads out there.  This deal may just be too good to pass up. 
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 14, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Hmmm....very tempting. 

What do you guys think the largest SAFE shot would be on a 3 mod (dual exhuast, GYTR Filter and PCIII) Raptor 700?

Lately I have been spending a lot of time near the drag strip at the dunes, and I would love to be able to crack a bottle and help me keep up with some of the faster quads out there.  This deal may just be too good to pass up. 

Without a Piston in your bike, I would limit it to 20. You can run 15 all day with no problems, as I have personally done it myself on the stock piston. Keep in mind as well when comparing other brands out there that when ours hits with 20 horses at the beginning, it's still gonna be 20 horses at the end. Other kids will hit with 20 and fade to less as their bottle pressure drops.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: lotuseater on September 15, 2010, 06:01:12 PM
I am very interested in this.  Working out some details right now.  :D
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 15, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
I've got some interest as well. Running a +2 valve head, low compression, big cam, big bore, stroker, big throttle body, big intake, big exhaust. 90+hp on 112 race fuel. Does you system come with a separate fuel tank and NOS bottle? I hear that I should run methanol and NOS mix on my bike. Is this true and why? If I do run Methanol/nos mix in the system is it ok to run race fuel in my main tank? In other words race fuel in the main tank running straight to the tb and methanol in the second tank running into the NPFI mixing with the NOS. IS this safe or am I totally missunderstanding?
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 16, 2010, 04:52:37 PM
I've got some interest as well. Running a +2 valve head, low compression, big cam, big bore, stroker, big throttle body, big intake, big exhaust. 90+hp on 112 race fuel. Does you system come with a separate fuel tank and NOS bottle? I hear that I should run methanol and NOS mix on my bike. Is this true and why? If I do run Methanol/nos mix in the system is it ok to run race fuel in my main tank? In other words race fuel in the main tank running straight to the tb and methanol in the second tank running into the NPFI mixing with the NOS. IS this safe or am I totally misunderstanding?

You are NOT misunderstanding. The Group Buy system we are advertising comes with everything you need, nitrous bottle AND separate fuel tank. In your scenario where you're pushing octane limits, I would agree 100% to run Methanol in the separate tank. As a matter of fact, everyone putting a system on their raptor should be running Methanol. I am running it on my personal Raptor (I'm not making near as much power as you are off the bottle) and have seen the benefits of being able to run more timing with no detonation.

If you're not aware of some of the benefits of methanol, here's a short list:
1. Detonation resistance
2. Cooling effect
3. More power potential
4. Typically cheaper to purchase than leaded race fuel

These benefits are not limited to just modded motors, but stock motors as well. When running nitrous, you're typically concerned with detonation, overheating, etc causing problems. Methanol all but eliminates most of the concerns people have with running nitrous, better controlling detonation and overheating. Our system meters the methanol so that the nitrous system always has the correct air/fuel ratio. Assuming you have a constant fuel source, our kit takes all the tuning and guesswork out of running nitrous.

Mixing race fuel and methanol is a great idea. You will get the benefits of Methanol when running nitrous and then when you're off the button, the race fuel will clean the methanol out of the system eliminating the corrosive cons of running a full methanol system.

These are awesome questions! The biggest holdup people have with nitrous is they have watched movies like The Fast and The Furious and seen all the misinformation that gets passed around by outdated, 50 year old technologies. BOSS has brought to the forefront, the newest and most advanced technology to nitrous making it safe and efficient for everyone. With this group buy, it's your opportunity to finally run an elite nitrous system (because I know you want to) at an affordable price! I firmly believe that our system is the best out there and am willing to stand behind it 100%.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 16, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
I am very interested in this.  Working out some details right now.  :D

Call me at the shop Jake. I wanna talk to you about your setup...

801-794-0307

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 21, 2010, 10:51:07 AM
Okay Raptor Source,
I've got 3 people that want a BOSS System. That's short of our 10 person goal.

What I will do to help sweeten the deal: I will include 2 sets of nitrous jets so those of you that are concerned about overdoing it can try it out and see how it goes without the fear of burning anything down. I'll include a 10hp jet that you can try the system out first with. With that small of a hit, you will have no problems with timing or going lean and still get a peak at the potential of a bigger hit. When you feel what only 10 extra horsepower feels like, you'll jump at the chance to step up to 20, 30 or more!

Let's hear it from anyone else that's interested, but still not willing to jump over the fence...

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Pw383426 on September 21, 2010, 06:44:29 PM
This really is a badass deal here, wish I had the money to go for it.... turbos loooove nitrous. When is the 10 person group buy supposed to be over by? I would hate to see it not happen, sounds like BossNoss has some great tech support as well  :thumbs:

One question for me, and maybe I've just missed it over the post, but how does the fuel get controlled? I have a moristech that is hard wired into my ecu, and I wouldn't want anything conflicting with it (cost 1200 bones)

Tony
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: lotuseater on September 21, 2010, 07:40:46 PM
Okay Raptor Source,
I've got 3 people that want a BOSS System. That's short of our 10 person goal.

What I will do to help sweeten the deal: I will include 2 sets of nitrous jets so those of you that are concerned about overdoing it can try it out and see how it goes without the fear of burning anything down. I'll include a 10hp jet that you can try the system out first with. With that small of a hit, you will have no problems with timing or going lean and still get a peak at the potential of a bigger hit. When you feel what only 10 extra horsepower feels like, you'll jump at the chance to step up to 20, 30 or more!

Let's hear it from anyone else that's interested, but still not willing to jump over the fence...

-Jeremy

I am one of the 3 in on the group buy already. 
I have been thinking about trying out a Boss Noss nitrous kit for a while now, and at this price I am definitely going to give it a shot. 
Jeremy and the other guys I have talked with at Boss Noss seem very knowledgeable and willing to help through any questions.  Give them a call and lets get this group buy going.   :clap:
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 22, 2010, 09:11:07 AM
This really is a badass deal here, wish I had the money to go for it.... turbos loooove nitrous. When is the 10 person group buy supposed to be over by? I would hate to see it not happen, sounds like BossNoss has some great tech support as well  :thumbs:

One question for me, and maybe I've just missed it over the post, but how does the fuel get controlled? I have a moristech that is hard wired into my ecu, and I wouldn't want anything conflicting with it (cost 1200 bones)

Tony

The nitrous fuel system is 100% independent of the engine's fuel management system. The NPFI (Nitrous Power Fuel Injector) does the metering of the fuel. It uses the nitrous to siphon the correct amount of fuel and mix it at the same time, eliminating fuel pumps, safety switches, complicated wiring, etc. As long as your fittings are tight, the system works!

We need to get 10 people by Oct 10th!
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Krandall on September 22, 2010, 09:22:33 AM
7 more peeps!! Come on guys.

Spread the word to all you know!!! 8)
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 22, 2010, 11:52:13 AM
Im in!!
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Segkast on September 22, 2010, 11:59:14 AM
Damn I wish I could get down on this
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Mtneer Man on September 22, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
Im in. I really hope this deal goes through
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: txredxj on September 22, 2010, 08:55:02 PM
if mine wasnt a trail bike i would be on this. this is an awesome deal! got any picks of it on a raptor?
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 22, 2010, 11:00:13 PM
I've got some pictures of it on my personal Raptor and the shop Raptor. I'll post them up tomorrow.

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 23, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
Haven't had a chance to get you some photo's. I haven't forgot about you guys! I'll post up ASAP.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Spartan on September 23, 2010, 05:05:22 PM
The timing might be kinda bad for some people going to the LS rally...maybe try to push it back a few weeks or extend the deadline?
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: DL700 on September 23, 2010, 11:28:05 PM
 :nana: great kit with some good technology :thumbs:
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 24, 2010, 05:06:26 PM
Ok...I have a few more questions before I commit.  What about mounting the bottles?  Does this kit come with brackets to mount everything up?  Is it ran off of a WOT switch?  And for the nitrous jet...does this tap into the intake somewhere?  Basically what I'm asking...how hard of an install would this be for an idiot with plenty of tools?   ???  Bottle size included with the "kit"?  And average cost to have that bottle refilled (and I know it probably varies by shop and location)?  Also, are there any supporting mods that would help make a 20hp shot safer without cracking the engine open on a 3 mod raptor (programmable ignition, etc)?

Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Pw383426 on September 24, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
Ok...I have a few more questions before I commit.  What about mounting the bottles?  Does this kit come with brackets to mount everything up?  Is it ran off of a WOT switch?  And for the nitrous jet...does this tap into the intake somewhere?  Basically what I'm asking...how hard of an install would this be for an idiot with plenty of tools?   ???  Bottle size included with the "kit"?  And average cost to have that bottle refilled (and I know it probably varies by shop and location)?  Also, are there any supporting mods that would help make a 20hp shot safer without cracking the engine open on a 3 mod raptor (programmable ignition, etc)?



Alot of turbos add 40hp to a stock raptor engine, I don't see why a 20 shot would hurt a stock engine.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 27, 2010, 03:26:31 PM
Turbos are cute.


Can't wait, also can't believe there isn't more on this GB???
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: txredxj on September 27, 2010, 07:10:22 PM
not everyone has a built bike. my next investment will be duals and a 54 tb. best thing is i dont have to get them refilled lol
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Spartan on September 27, 2010, 07:11:45 PM
not everyone has a built bike. my next investment will be duals and a 54 tb. best thing is i dont have to get them refilled lol

That's the beauty of it, you don't need a built bike. And refilling is easy...
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 27, 2010, 10:34:03 PM
Ditto.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Mtneer Man on September 28, 2010, 10:48:09 AM
Just paid for my kit, should be here in a week or so. BossNoss was great to deal with. Come on people, this is cheap easy Hp.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 28, 2010, 02:38:06 PM
Ok...I have a few more questions before I commit.  What about mounting the bottles?  Does this kit come with brackets to mount everything up?  Is it ran off of a WOT switch?  And for the nitrous jet...does this tap into the intake somewhere?  Basically what I'm asking...how hard of an install would this be for an idiot with plenty of tools?   ???  Bottle size included with the "kit"?  And average cost to have that bottle refilled (and I know it probably varies by shop and location)?  Also, are there any supporting mods that would help make a 20hp shot safer without cracking the engine open on a 3 mod raptor (programmable ignition, etc)?




Bueller?  Bueller? 

Also, how many people are we up to now?  I will post this over at RZR forums if need be...might be a couple guys interested in the twin-cylinder kit if that's included in the group buy. 
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 28, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Ok...I have a few more questions before I commit.  What about mounting the bottles?  Does this kit come with brackets to mount everything up?  Is it ran off of a WOT switch?  And for the nitrous jet...does this tap into the intake somewhere?  Basically what I'm asking...how hard of an install would this be for an idiot with plenty of tools?   ???  Bottle size included with the "kit"?  And average cost to have that bottle refilled (and I know it probably varies by shop and location)?  Also, are there any supporting mods that would help make a 20hp shot safer without cracking the engine open on a 3 mod raptor (programmable ignition, etc)?

Okay, easy answer:
-It's simple enough for a novice to install this.

-It comes with some brackets to mount the bottles, but it will be up to the end user to decide where they want them. Everyone seems to want them in their own location, so it's been difficult to come up with a specific bracket for each bike. Some like it on the other side of a single exhaust where the duals would be located. When you get duals, this kinda defeats that install location. Some remove the front bumper and mount them there. Good spot as well. Mounting the bottle with the included brackets will be the biggest obstacle.

-It comes with a momentary switch that you have to hold down to activate the system. You can install and wire in your own WOT switch, but it's not included in the system.

-The nozzle can be installed in the intake pipe and I placed mine right before the throttle body. Drilled a hole and bolted the nozzle into the intake with some loctite to make sure the nut doesn't come loose.

-2.5lb bottle comes standard with the kit. I can get you bigger bottles or more bottles if you want.

-Figure about $5 a lb for nitrous, depending on your location of course.

-A 20hp hit is as safe as anything else on a stock raptor. Put a piston in it for more compression and but it up to a 30. You need nothing else in my opinion to make this a safe running system.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 28, 2010, 03:59:40 PM
Bueller?  Bueller? 

Also, how many people are we up to now?  I will post this over at RZR forums if need be...might be a couple guys interested in the twin-cylinder kit if that's included in the group buy. 

I've got 3 people right now bought and paid for. I need 7 more. Post up on the RZR forum if you'd like. It's the same kit and I'll give them the same deal.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 28, 2010, 05:40:26 PM
I posted this over at RZR forums...hopefully we can get a few guys from over there to jump in on this deal too.

http://www.rzrforums.net/forced-induction/36080-nitrous-kit-group-buy-need-6-more-people.html#post440109


BOSS NOSS, there will probably be a few questions from the RZR guys...if you want, you can read them on the link I posted above and answer them here, and I can post your answers at RZR forums, or you can post them over there if you would like. 
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Gunz on September 28, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
Lotuseater...paid
MtneerMan...paid
Gunny.....    paid

I so can't wait for mine. 95hp +50shot=  :preddy:
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: txredxj on September 28, 2010, 09:11:31 PM
really want to see it mounted on a bike so i can decide. gonna be tb or this
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Colorado700R on September 28, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
a TB is what maybe 5-6hp?...compared to 20-30 or more for the same $$$......
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: txredxj on September 28, 2010, 10:10:04 PM
plus the drive to get it filled, time off work since i only get sundays off, and price for the NO2. unless somewhere local does it, maybe a place like airgas?
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 28, 2010, 11:23:28 PM
Here's 4 pics on my personal Raptor. The nitrous bottles are mounted to the nerf bars. Because of my 6" swingarm, I was able to mount them here and so far, it's worked very well.

The second and third are my auxiliary fuel bottle. I mounted to the backside of the overflow bottle. I use a small hand pump to fill it and it's not as bad as it would seem tucked up under there. I like it there as it's somewhat hidden and it takes the vibration of the dunes well. My fuel bottle has the optional fuel level gauge installed.

The 4th pic is of my smart box. I don't have an airbox in mine, so I mounted it to the back of where the airbox went. When I had my airbox, I simply mounted it inside on the back behind the air filter. It worked well there. I did build a small clamp/bracket to make sure my box never fell off. This is not part of the system...
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 28, 2010, 11:25:30 PM
Last 2 pics are of the NPFI. Its mounted on the bottom of my FCI intake tube, right before the throttle body. Stock intake tubes or most aftermarket tubes can be mounted a similar way, so you probably get the idea. The bottle line goes to the smart box (nitrous) and the upper line goes to the fuel bottle.

Very simple to install.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 28, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
I'll get some pictures of the the shops Raptor and post up the bottle location. It's got a Ron Woods single exhaust, so we mounted the nitrous bottle on the other side where there's plenty of room.

Please stay tuned...
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 29, 2010, 04:41:52 PM
I'm in...can't pass up the deal.  PM sent.


Kyle
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: lotuseater on September 29, 2010, 08:03:33 PM
Lotuseater...paid
MtneerMan...paid
Gunny.....    paid

I so can't wait for mine. 95hp +50shot=  :preddy:

Sounds like Gunny and I have a similar setup and asked for the same kit.    :clap:
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 29, 2010, 10:55:17 PM
Lookin' good guys. Let's keep it going. I know there's some more of you out there that need this for your Raptor/ATV. Dollar for dollar, you can't beat this setup.

Hit me up if you have any more questions.

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Alkire193 on September 30, 2010, 12:40:09 AM
It sounds like fun, but a shot of nitrous on a 770cc turbo build?

sir, come on now.....
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Sand84 on September 30, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Spray the intercooler  :nod:
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on September 30, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
Okay guys, we've got 4 down, let's get 6 more!

Hit me up if you have any questions!!

-Jeremy
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on September 30, 2010, 03:59:26 PM
Mark me down on the paid list. 

Good deal, thanks Jeremy...any idea when these kits will ship out? 
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: BossNoss on October 01, 2010, 03:06:18 PM
I was looking around at different installs of our systems and came across this one:

http://www.kawieriders.com/forum/kawasaki-kfx700-v-force/99027-my-boss-noss-nitrous-kit-install.html

I know, it's a Kawi. I'm not telling you to go buy one of these over your Raptor, but the install has some good idea's for those of you that are concerned about the install.

Good locations for the bottles and smart box. Keep in mind on this install, he didn't use our nitrous bottle and added a gauge. The idea is the same and overall, looks good.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: SprinterX on October 02, 2010, 01:00:11 PM
Put the offer and a link up over at Z400central. Used to ride a wild and dialed Z400 till I got the 700.
Lots of action over there so that may help get the numbers you're looking for. Looks like a well thought out kit and priced nicely. Too bad I don't need one for my trail riding ap. Good luck.
Title: Re: BOSS NOSS GROUP BUY!!!!! Ends OCT 10th
Post by: Langford on October 02, 2010, 06:17:30 PM
I was looking around at different installs of our systems and came across this one:

http://www.kawieriders.com/forum/kawasaki-kfx700-v-force/99027-my-boss-noss-nitrous-kit-install.html

I know, it's a Kawi. I'm not telling you to go buy one of these over your Raptor, but the install has some good idea's for those of you that are concerned about the install.

Good locations for the bottles and smart box. Keep in mind on this install, he didn't use our nitrous bottle and added a gauge. The idea is the same and overall, looks good.


That is a fast machine...we raced a few hundred times at silver lake, and before the juice...he would catch me at about 3/4 track and pull a few lengths.  After the juice, I wouldn't even line up close to him.  He would come off the line like a rocket and throw an evil roost.  With his 30 shot vs my 20, I'm sure he will still be faster, but I won't shy away from lining up near him next year.
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Post by: 04sonicstang on October 02, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
i'll buy a kit if i can get it for a rzr
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Post by: Langford on October 02, 2010, 07:14:26 PM
I had a few questions on rzrforums that the guys were wondering...


Is the pricing the same for the twin cylinder kit as the single?

Also, the 2011 rzr got a new fuel injection system...the same kit as the '08-'10 will work, correct?
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Post by: BossNoss on October 04, 2010, 04:32:11 PM
i'll buy a kit if i can get it for a rzr

Give me a call, you can get one for a RZR.

-Jeremy
801-794-0307
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Post by: BossNoss on October 04, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
I had a few questions on rzrforums that the guys were wondering...


Is the pricing the same for the twin cylinder kit as the single?

Also, the 2011 rzr got a new fuel injection system...the same kit as the '08-'10 will work, correct?

Yes, the pricing is the same for a single or twin. The fuel injection system should make no difference on this type of application since the fuel systems are independent from each other.
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Post by: Langford on October 05, 2010, 02:19:31 PM
Jeremy, got another question from the RZR guys:

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Only problem I have a question about is what will this do to your clutching? Normally you wouldnt be using the Nx so if you clutch for no Nx then hit the Nx you will hit limiter too soon? is this the case or do they have that figured out as well?


It isn't something I thought about before...when most guys add a turbo or big bore, they have to do clutch work to keep it from just pegging the rev limiter right away.  Same situation with the spray?  

By the way, how many guys are we up to on the group buy?
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Post by: Alkire193 on October 05, 2010, 02:26:19 PM
SAND84, you got it right, that is the next step. Ice cold intercooler. Lot of extra weight just to get the cooler...well....cooler. I think id be better off just getting a bottle with a valve and chilling the intercooler before racing.
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Post by: BossNoss on October 05, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
Jeremy, got another question from the RZR guys:

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Only problem I have a question about is what will this do to your clutching? Normally you wouldnt be using the Nx so if you clutch for no Nx then hit the Nx you will hit limiter too soon? is this the case or do they have that figured out as well?


It isn't something I thought about before...when most guys add a turbo or big bore, they have to do clutch work to keep it from just pegging the rev limiter right away.  Same situation with the spray?  

By the way, how many guys are we up to on the group buy?

Anytime you add more power, you'll have to look at your clutching on a setup such as the RZR or snowmobile. For a stock RZR, I wouldn't go much more than about 20hp. Each application is different, but bringing the clutch in sooner will help with the redline issue. Realistically, you're only looking at raising it probably 500rpm or so. Adjusting the clutch for that by dropping your n/a clutch settings down by about 250, will be a good starting point.

We've got 4 'definite' people for the group buy right now. I have word that I'll have a 5th by the end of the week.
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Post by: BossNoss on October 06, 2010, 10:55:11 AM
4 days left guys! Get 'em while their hot!!
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Post by: txredxj on October 06, 2010, 11:16:14 AM
SAND84, you got it right, that is the next step. Ice cold intercooler. Lot of extra weight just to get the cooler...well....cooler. I think id be better off just getting a bottle with a valve and chilling the intercooler before racing.

the only power you get from a set up like that is going to be the nitous that gets sucked in through the intake. i have seen a few test were thay actually extend the intake infront of the car on the dyno and get 3 or 4 hp on a car. with it set up normal they get 15 to 20 just from the extra nitrous in the engine bay.
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Post by: BossNoss on October 07, 2010, 11:56:21 AM
3 days left...

 :thumbs:
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Post by: Spider/Paleface513 on October 08, 2010, 09:51:56 AM
can we exstend this i just bought my buddy a wk 54 for a gift and need about 2 weeks to get some money saved up if not cool i'll just pay full price later i want a 40 shot
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Post by: BossNoss on October 08, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
I can stretch it over until Monday morning for someone that may miss me over the weekend, but I can't go two weeks out. :(

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Post by: Spider/Paleface513 on October 08, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
That's cool it was only 10% off right. What's regular price on a 30-40 shot set up complete kit like this.
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Post by: Spider/Paleface513 on October 08, 2010, 04:59:35 PM
Went to first post so I'll be paying 200 more that's cool.
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Post by: lotuseater on October 09, 2010, 10:58:05 AM
People that didn't get in on this are missing out on a great price to try a kit with a neat concept of how to do nitrous.  Can't wait to try this kit out. 
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Post by: Gunz on October 09, 2010, 09:40:03 PM
I so can't wait to get mine on.....
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 09:11:42 AM
Got my kit today...looks like I will be spending this afternoon in the garage doing some wrenching and fitting.

Jeremy,

I was looking at your pictures that you posted...the one of the fuel bottle, is that just a "fuel level" indicator that you rigged up on the side of the bottle (the clear plastic hose)?  If so, I may have to "borrow" that idea... :nod:
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Post by: Adam on October 13, 2010, 09:58:24 AM
how long will the motor hold up running NOS?
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Post by: Spartan on October 13, 2010, 09:59:23 AM
Depends on how long you're holding the button down, I would think...and size of the shot, your motor mods, etc
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Post by: Adam on October 13, 2010, 10:44:31 AM
how bout with my mods now? im going to do a 12:1JE later this year, early next year. i heard high compression and NOS dont mix very well.
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Post by: Spartan on October 13, 2010, 10:47:40 AM
Don't run a JE, those have a bad history with forced induction/power adders
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 11:18:18 AM
Anybody know for sure if the nitrous bottle HAS to be mounted with the valve/nozzle pointing down?  I put my bottle under my front left fender, and it works there...but I didn't read the directions first, and they suggest putting the nozzle pointing down.  Where mine is located, it seems like it would be safer having the nozzle at the top (less likely to have the valve hit by something flung up off of the tire). 
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Post by: BossNoss on October 13, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
Got my kit today...looks like I will be spending this afternoon in the garage doing some wrenching and fitting.

Jeremy,

I was looking at your pictures that you posted...the one of the fuel bottle, is that just a "fuel level" indicator that you rigged up on the side of the bottle (the clear plastic hose)?  If so, I may have to "borrow" that idea... :nod:

Yes, that's my fuel level indicator. :)

You'll have to mount your bottle upside down or add a siphon tube. I have had no problems running mine upside down when it was mounted to my frame on the ground. This is the preferred method to get every last bit of nitrous out of the bottle.

Compression and nitrous work well together, especially 12 to 1. I have been running 15-30 horses now for 3 years and have had no serious problems. I'm currently running a 12 to 1 CP piston and it responds very well compared to the stock compression.
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 12:17:39 PM
Ok, I can flip the bottle over...no big deal (except the stickers will be upside down now  :rolleyes:...lol).  Filling the fuel bottle is going to be a PITA...I mounted mine in the same location as yours, and filling it is going to be a job that I'm not looking forward to. 
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 12:36:45 PM
Ok...now time to mount the NPFI. 

I'm running the stock intake still, with a K&N adapter and filter.  I see that you tapped into the FCI intake tube on yours, which is solid plastic.  The factory setup is a rubber tube...do you see a problem with mounting it there?  Obviously it won't be as solid of a mount, but it should hold in place. 

Also, should I mount it before or after the sensor in the intake tube?  (Filter side of the sensor or throttle body side?)
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Post by: Adam on October 13, 2010, 01:36:23 PM
Don't run a JE, those have a bad history with forced induction/power adders

only reason is i wanna run pump gas.
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Post by: Spartan on October 13, 2010, 01:37:25 PM
You can run pump gas with a CP piston also...I believe that is what Boss Noss has said he uses on here.
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Post by: lotuseater on October 13, 2010, 03:11:33 PM
You'll have to mount your bottle upside down or add a siphon tube. I have had no problems running mine upside down when it was mounted to my frame on the ground. This is the preferred method to get every last bit of nitrous out of the bottle.

Can the nitrous bottle be mounted fairly flat, with the valve pointed towards the rear of the bike?    Seems like if you are moving the liquid nitrous would be forced to the rear of the bottle still?
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Post by: BossNoss on October 13, 2010, 03:15:46 PM
You'll have to mount your bottle upside down or add a siphon tube. I have had no problems running mine upside down when it was mounted to my frame on the ground. This is the preferred method to get every last bit of nitrous out of the bottle.

Can the nitrous bottle be mounted fairly flat, with the valve pointed towards the rear of the bike?    Seems like if you are moving the liquid nitrous would be forced to the rear of the bottle still?

That is true. Think of the bottle like a 2 liter bottle of soda. Nitrous is a liquid. You'll want to position the bottle in a way that will allow you to get all the liquid out. At some point, even while moving, the nitrous will catch up with you and even out in a flat mounted system. You'll want to angle it as much as you can just to get every last drop out. You don't have to have it perfectly up and down because even at an angle, the nitrous will flow to the lowest point in the bottle.
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Post by: BossNoss on October 13, 2010, 03:16:45 PM
You can run pump gas with a CP piston also...I believe that is what Boss Noss has said he uses on here.

I've run both pistons, but do like the design of the CP better. I think they are both good pistons, but you'll get a better fit/finish with the CP IMHO.
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Post by: Adam on October 13, 2010, 04:08:30 PM
i thought because of the dome design of the cp piston you had to run 100oct. detonation issues.
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 04:08:55 PM
All done!  I just got done zip-tying all of the cables and hoses in place, and tightened up all of the nuts/bolts that I removed.  I may have to take a day trip out to the dunes this saturday just to test this thing out.  The install was pretty straight forward, the hardest part was getting my fat fingers back to some of the mounting bolts on the fuel bottle.  

So Jeremy...this kit came with some "extra parts", right?   ???  There were a few extra flares, and misc. parts in the box after I got done installing everything.  And on that NPFI, other than the nut that goes on the inside to hold it in place on the intake tube...there is nothing else to it, right?  No fogger or jet or anything that I may have missed?
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Post by: Krandall on October 13, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
All and all, pretty easy to do?

look forward to hearin your review of it!
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Post by: Langford on October 13, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
Jeremy...another question for you.  Do I need to prime the fuel system before I try to spray it for the first time?  I just watched some of the boss noss videos on youtube, and Jim explained the system as always having fuel right at the NPFI, so when the nitrous is sprayed the venturi principle pulls the required amount of fuel in with it.  Well, being that my fuel bottle is lower than the NPFI, won't I have to prime it somehow to get fuel up there in the first place? 


All and all, pretty easy to do?

look forward to hearin your review of it!

It was actually a lot easier than I anticipated.  Every time I start a project like this that I have no experience with, I get nervous and expect the worst.  The directions that came with the kit weren't great by any means, but with a little bit of common sense...you can figure everything out. 

The hardest part is trying to figure out where, and how to mount the bottles.  I went the same route with the fuel bottle that Jeremy did with his (or at least on the one that he posted pictures of)....I made a small bracket out of some sheet metal that I got from Lowes, and spaced it away from the coolant bottle with some 1/4" nylon spacers (the coolant bottle bracket has two holes in it already that two small zip-ties are ran through, remove the ties and they make a great place to bolt a bracket to using 1/4" bolts).  Mine is nothing fancy, but it does the job. 

For the nitrous bottle, I just tucked it up under the front fender as far as I could (left side if you are sitting on the quad), and bolted the brackets directly to the fender, through the warning labels.  It is fairly solid, but I'm going to make another bracket out of some flat stock steel to help support the bottle...basically just trying to take some of the weight off of the plastic and tie it to the frame. 

I planned on putting the "smart box" right next to my PCIII, behind the air box in the little storage area...but the steel braided nitrous line that came with the kit wasn't long enough to allow that, so I set it next to the battery on top of the stock intake tube and used the supplied velcro to help keep it in place.
 I tapped the NPFI into the the stock intake tube, on the throttle body side of the sensor (whatever that sensor is)...it is about 1.5" off of the throttle body. 
I ended up sticking the toggle on/off switch right below the reverse knob on the front right fender, and mounted the "go baby go" button on the right grip.  I cut a little notch out of my ODI grips and used a zip-tie to hold it in place...the button sits pretty much right where the pad of my index finger normally rests, so it is easy enough to just hit the spray button when I want to. 

It started raining when I was finishing everything up, so I didn't have a chance to get any pictures of the install...but I will snag a few tomorrow. 

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Post by: Sand84 on October 13, 2010, 07:55:14 PM
Sweet cant wait to see this run  :nod:
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Post by: BossNoss on October 13, 2010, 09:56:24 PM
So Jeremy...this kit came with some "extra parts", right?   ???  There were a few extra flares, and misc. parts in the box after I got done installing everything.  And on that NPFI, other than the nut that goes on the inside to hold it in place on the intake tube...there is nothing else to it, right?  No fogger or jet or anything that I may have missed?

They probably left you a few extra parts in there in case you misplaced some or needed some extras for some reason. That's pretty common.

Nothing else you'll need with the NPFI. It really is that simple.

As far as priming the system, the first time, yes you'll be without fuel for a moment. You can prime the system anytime. I typically do it while the engine is running and just hit the 'go' button for a split second. It won't take long (hundredths of a second) to get fuel up there and once you do it the first time, it'll be there the rest of the time for you.

One trick I did with my fuel because I was in the same boat you were in when I first installed my system, I wanted to know if there was fuel at the nozzle. I started putting fuel scent in my Meth so that anytime I ran the nitrous system, I could smell the added 'scent' and had that extra reassurance that it was working. Keep in mind, I didn't do this because there's a flaw in the system, but because I look for the overkill option and wanted the peace of mind. When I'm done for the weekend at the dunes, I will typically purge my system of the nitrous by shutting off my nitrous bottle, then clearing the system by turning on the 'go' button. I can always smell the cotton candy or grape scent when I purge the system and the peace of mind makes me sleep better. :)
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Post by: BossNoss on October 13, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
i thought because of the dome design of the cp piston you had to run 100oct. detonation issues.

The dome design on the CP piston is pretty similar to the JE, at least for the 2 that I have/had and they were both in the 12-12.5:1 compression range. I don't know why the CP piston dome would require you to run higher octane solely on the merits of it's 'shape' over the JE.