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Title: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 06, 2010, 08:59:38 PM
I've been searching all the old threads looking for extended stock swinger pics. Everytime i think i found some, they have been deleted off someones photobucket...lame( i use photobucket atm aswell so guess i cant complain much).

ANYWAY, i have been planning on extending my stock swinger for a long time now. I've got alot of extra time atm so i'm going to go for it. I have extensive cast aluminum welding experience(and i have my dad, he's a cast alluminum welding GERD), so thats not an issue.

I plan on riding HARD as always! I ride trails lots of big rocks,trees, and hills...ect. Can't decide on +2,3,or 4....

The main thing is i need some PICS(give me some, and i promise to return the favor!)! and GOOD advice on things that even the experienced might miss.

THX in advance!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: 1badazz_700r on January 07, 2010, 12:35:03 AM
This is a +3 and is perfect for everytype of riding i have done. I havent found a reason to go any longer. On modded raptor kingof bling does them in about any length for between 2-$300.00 shipped. with the plus 3 its not long enough that most people can say wow you got a longer swingger,but for hills,drags and trails i couldnt be more happy :thumbs: Hope this helps
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 07, 2010, 08:45:54 AM
Thx :thumbs:

The more pics the merry.

Was a new caliper stop made?

Were new mounts for the skid plate made?

How did you keep it perfectly square?

Pics and info on scenario's like this would greatly be appreciated.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Colorado700R on January 07, 2010, 08:47:49 AM
Natural Raptor has one too...MATT!!!!!


Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: SprinterX on January 07, 2010, 10:25:23 AM
Here's a link to the GB thread with pics over at MR.
http://www.moddedraptor.com/community/past-group-buys/2936-extended-stock-swingarm-group-buy-11-1-12-1-a.html (http://www.moddedraptor.com/community/past-group-buys/2936-extended-stock-swingarm-group-buy-11-1-12-1-a.html)
I was looking for a +2 myself but was told the shortest he could do was +3. When it was all said and done I ended up with a +4. Great for a duner but I find it's a little long for trail riding. Not that it makes it difficult to turn, only that it doesn't have the same traction as a stock length swinger. I have a second stock shock, swinger, chain I use for my trail set-up.
Only the front mounts need to be redone as you need the rears as a reference point to mount skids. In the GB you could have them added for an additional $20, but all that was done was holes drilled and tapped. I was quite unimpressed by that as the material thickness in that area only allows for a couple threads. I thought we were getting some sort of bung or post welded in that would offer much greater support and strength. Having said that I haven't had any issues (touch wood) with pulling the threads out so far.
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 07, 2010, 10:56:30 AM
I saw SprinterX's swinger in person a few month back at a rally, and I have to say I was very impressed. Awesome sleeper look, but if you look close I think it comes out looking even cleaner than a stock arm. KOB's guy does some good work.

Kirk, were you telling me that he was actually doing something as far as adding further bracing to the arms when he extends them, as opposed to just weldong a new section piece in/on ? I forget if that was you or someone else telling me that ? Very nice upgrade for the sand IMO !
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: SprinterX on January 07, 2010, 12:31:08 PM
Kirk, were you telling me that he was actually doing something as far as adding further bracing to the arms when he extends them, as opposed to just weldong a new section piece in/on ? I forget if that was you or someone else telling me that ? Very nice upgrade for the sand IMO !

Not sure if it was me or not. With the carrier out, you can see additional supports/bracing internally where the weld-in section is. KOB assured me he has pounded on his for some time with no issues at all. I'm not a "go big" jumper but I've pounded thru some pretty tough whoops with it and it's all good.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 07, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
Got it taken apart this afternoon, so i could look at it real well. Everything came apart real smooth.

I think i might have to make a "V cut", instead of just making a 90 degree square cut, because of the caliper stop.

I didnt take any pics of taking it apart, because thats just boring.

I'm going to have to make a jig for it first before i cut it. This way i can cut it, slide it,add bracing,and make a piece to fill gap(so to speak).

Any advice on the bracing?

Any advice on where/how exactly to cut it?

Any advice on how to set up jig, so the final piece will be square?

All the previous pics and advice have been very helpfull, keep it coming :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 07, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
Having no clue about anything else, all I can offer is make sure you extend it behind the shock mount, not in front.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 07, 2010, 04:24:50 PM
Having no clue about anything else, all I can offer is make sure you extend it behind the shock mount, not in front.

Yeah thats for sure.

Gave some thought of cutting it forward of it, but that would be way to much work. Extending it would be easier, but moving the shock mounts, ect.. wouldn't be that easy.


An interesting fact, the inside diameter of the bore is 3.5 in. which i believe is the same as schedual 40 3 in. Not 100% sure but was thinking of making a jig using that advatage.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 07, 2010, 07:41:49 PM
Natural Raptor has one too...MATT!!!!!




You rang!!!  I will be glad to help with this. Here is the thread on mine. http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3990.0

dpe_ele - you are correct in wanting to do an angle cut

I went through the group buy from KOB and his welder did an excellent job. I went with the +4 and it has been one of the best mods I have ever done. 1badazz_700 was in the same group buy too. His pics look great too. He left his bare aluminum and I powder coated mine. If you look really, really, really, really close you can see the angle cut and weld line after the grinding right behind the shock mount. KOB powder coated one before and it bubbled on him and he advised me not to powder but my local powder guy stated he could do it. Ask anyone for the rally at LS Oklahoma about mine because I got a few compliments. If you have any question I can send you my number.
Good luck.
Matt 
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 07, 2010, 08:11:14 PM
That's awesome, that sends me somewhat in a good direction.

I have yet another question.

I was noticing when i took it all apart that the e-brake and brake line are probably going to come up short. What was done to address this issue?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 07, 2010, 08:13:52 PM
oem brakeline works on a 660 for a +4, is the 700 the same ?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 07, 2010, 08:21:15 PM
I ordered a custom parking brake cable from motion pro for $30ish included shipping. I thought that was a great price because it fit like a champ. Looks identical to the OEM. The brake line I ordered a longer one from TQS.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 07, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
I ordered a custom parking brake cable from motion pro for $30ish included shipping. I thought that was a great price because it fit like a champ. Looks identical to the OEM. The brake line I ordered a longer one from TQS.

Awesome, thx for all the quick replies :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 07, 2010, 08:41:54 PM
Any time    :woo:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 08, 2010, 09:21:37 AM
Planning on cleaning up the mess of tools, and start on the jig this afternoon. I'll throw in some pics if i come up with anything interesting.

Any advice on the jig or internal bracing?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Colorado700R on January 08, 2010, 09:55:06 AM
Natural Raptor has one too...MATT!!!!!




You rang!!!  I will be glad to help with this. Here is the thread on mine. http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3990.0

dpe_ele - you are correct in wanting to do an angle cut

I went through the group buy from KOB and his welder did an excellent job. I went with the +4 and it has been one of the best mods I have ever done. 1badazz_700 was in the same group buy too. His pics look great too. He left his bare aluminum and I powder coated mine. If you look really, really, really, really close you can see the angle cut and weld line after the grinding right behind the shock mount. KOB powder coated one before and it bubbled on him and he advised me not to powder but my local powder guy stated he could do it. Ask anyone for the rally at LS Oklahoma about mine because I got a few compliments. If you have any question I can send you my number.
Good luck.
Matt 

Matt, do you got contact info for KOB, I haven't seen him around lately ???
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: SprinterX on January 08, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
Jig
You'll need something up front on either side that would allow the swingarm pivot bolt to be installed and locate that end.
At the rear I'll think you'll want to pick up off the carrier mount ID so things stay square relative to the front.
It's pretty hard trying to describe how to build a jig but being square/true should obviously be perimount. Having the ability to lengthen it while maintaining true is also just as important.

Bracing
From what I could see inside mine with the carrier removed was a single plate approx 1/8-3/16 thick, mounted vertically. It was welded to the top and bottom. It extended all the way aft and was actually trimmed to allow for the carrier installation. How far fwd it extended I couldn't see but I would assume as far as possible to pick up the loading from the shock linkage mounts.

Not sure any of this helps.
 
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 08, 2010, 12:53:35 PM
Natural Raptor has one too...MATT!!!!!




You rang!!!  I will be glad to help with this. Here is the thread on mine. http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3990.0

dpe_ele - you are correct in wanting to do an angle cut

I went through the group buy from KOB and his welder did an excellent job. I went with the +4 and it has been one of the best mods I have ever done. 1badazz_700 was in the same group buy too. His pics look great too. He left his bare aluminum and I powder coated mine. If you look really, really, really, really close you can see the angle cut and weld line after the grinding right behind the shock mount. KOB powder coated one before and it bubbled on him and he advised me not to powder but my local powder guy stated he could do it. Ask anyone for the rally at LS Oklahoma about mine because I got a few compliments. If you have any question I can send you my number.
Good luck.
Matt 

Matt, do you got contact info for KOB, I haven't seen him around lately ???

Not anymore. I used to PM him on modded so try that if you want. Someone had stated his fabricator got hurt but that was a while back. I believe Gunny tried to get him to do a swinger and that fell thru.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 08, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
K, we actually decided not to make much of a jig(going to make a "one time" type thing), because we thought it would have been a ton of work for just making one that would work "perfectly"(all though we had some awesome jig ideas).So we decided to "perfectly wing it". We decided to literally tack it down to a big thick square piece of aluminum(we have almost unlimited supply of aluminum).

We took ALOT of measurements before we finally had it in place good enough to tack, but its within 0.001"(we have a nice set of calipers on hand).

I'll post pics of whats done so far later tonight.



Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 08, 2010, 04:35:41 PM
So we decided to "perfectly wing it".


Well said :rofl: I love it !
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 08, 2010, 04:40:24 PM
So we decided to "perfectly wing it".


Well said :rofl: I love it !

Yeah hope it comes out "perfect enough"  :lol:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: 09RappySE on January 08, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
Here are mine at +5, welding and powder coating cost me about $140.

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 08, 2010, 09:01:40 PM
Some pics from this afternoon.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00769.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00762.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00749.jpg)
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 09, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
 Worked on it for a bit today, didn't have much time, but got the internal bracing near complete. We plan on extending the external stock rib bracing, to make it look even more stock, but that will be one of the last steps.

Hers some pics from this morning.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00775.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00817.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00851.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00852.jpg)
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 09, 2010, 04:27:19 PM
Nice work 09RaptorSE!   :thumbs:  And dpe_ele your is looking good too!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: 09RappySE on January 09, 2010, 04:40:40 PM
Nice work 09RaptorSE!   :thumbs:  And dpe_ele your is looking good too!  :thumbs:

Thanks,
You just can't beat a +5 for $140
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 09, 2010, 05:42:38 PM
Nice work 09RaptorSE!   :thumbs:  And dpe_ele your is looking good too!  :thumbs:

Thanks,
You just can't beat a +5 for $140

Yeah, very cheap indeed! Same reason i'm doing mine myself.

I figure all my expenses will be in extending the brake cable/line, sending the rear shock off to get redone, and if i decide to powdercoat.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 11, 2010, 05:29:08 PM
No new pics today, didn't really have anyting worthy of pics today.

Pretty much just got everything on location and tacked down solid. Tomorrow should show huge progress. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: 1badazz_700r on January 12, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
I used a parking brake delete kit cause i dont use my e-brake at all and bot a +4 inch braided brake line off ebay for like 30.00. also dont forget a longer chain :lol:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: fireman5166 on January 12, 2010, 11:11:05 AM
thats going to be my next mod. looks good guys.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 12, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
Pic from today.

Had to cut day short, got something in my eye :'(.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00855.jpg)

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: russ-russ on January 12, 2010, 06:22:25 PM
Looking really good so far.  It seems like you've thought it through really well and it should come out great. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 13, 2010, 07:40:14 PM
Today I went to the local shop and got all the ball rolling on the reassemble.

took rear shock in for new spring, rebuild, and revalve.
ordered longer e-brake cable.
longer brake line.
longer o-ring chain.
new front 15t sprocket.   ALL for $368.53 


Still need to add in those fin style gussets.
Then i can remove it from the jig and weld the bottom.
Then i can do the fun part and make it look like it was never even welded.

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Blair on January 14, 2010, 10:51:48 PM
looks great dude
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Krandall on January 15, 2010, 07:52:16 AM
dang, not sure how I missed this.. but holy crap, that thing is sweet!!!

that last filler piece. do you have access to a water jet or was that done with a plasma cutter?

freakin clean cuts!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Krandall on January 15, 2010, 07:52:39 AM
Also.. Are you doing these for hire? :D
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Peelz on January 15, 2010, 09:04:31 AM
really nice work mano! give us a strength review when you get it done. go jump really high and land shitty. :lol:

Bet you could sell a few. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 15, 2010, 04:39:41 PM
Very nice indeed !!!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
dang, not sure how I missed this.. but holy crap, that thing is sweet!!!

that last filler piece. do you have access to a water jet or was that done with a plasma cutter?

freakin clean cuts!

 :lol: Well actually we just drew it out with a sharpy, cut it out in the bandsaw, did some of the beveling with the belt sander, the rest with the hand held grinder, and finally bent the ends in the vice with a hammer.


looks great dude
Very nice indeed !!!

thx!! :thumbs:

really nice work mano! give us a strength review when you get it done. go jump really high and land shitty. :lol:

Bet you could sell a few. :thumbs:

 :rofl: i garantee im going to ride the crap out of it, and i've gave some serious thought about doing this for hire as well.

MOAR PICS COMING SOOON!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
Here is what we got done today.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00864.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00867.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00869.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/My%20Raptor%20700r/DSC00876.jpg)

I'ts coming out pretty good.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Segkast on January 15, 2010, 05:56:41 PM
If you haven't mounted her up yet, it might be interesting to get the weight to compare to an OEM arm just for shits and giggles. I know most the people concerned about weight would be buying laddered swinger and such, but still I think- good info since you've got it.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 06:16:10 PM
If you haven't mounted her up yet, it might be interesting to get the weight to compare to an OEM arm just for shits and giggles. I know most the people concerned about weight would be buying laddered swinger and such, but still I think- good info since you've got it.

Yeah i plan in wieghing it. I'll be sure to take pics.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 15, 2010, 06:41:04 PM
The swinger is looking great!  :thumbs:

If you haven't mounted her up yet, it might be interesting to get the weight to compare to an OEM arm just for shits and giggles. I know most the people concerned about weight would be buying laddered swinger and such, but still I think- good info since you've got it.

Yeah i plan in wieghing it. I'll be sure to take pics.

I weighed mine and it gained about a pound with powder coat included. I really like the stocker/sleeper look!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 06:44:53 PM
The swinger is looking great!  :thumbs:

If you haven't mounted her up yet, it might be interesting to get the weight to compare to an OEM arm just for shits and giggles. I know most the people concerned about weight would be buying laddered swinger and such, but still I think- good info since you've got it.

Yeah i plan in wieghing it. I'll be sure to take pics.



I weighed mine and it gained about a pound with powder coat included. I really like the stocker/sleeper look!  :thumbs:

yeah the the sleeper look pwns!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 15, 2010, 06:49:46 PM
You are going to get tons of compliments! What color powder?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
You are going to get tons of compliments! What color powder?

I'm thinking black, but i cant decide if i want to powder it now. I was thinking if i wanted to keep the "Sleeper Look" i could get some of the "hammered look paint".
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 15, 2010, 06:58:29 PM
Check out mine. The gray metallic with clear. The powder coater did a great job.

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 07:01:19 PM
Check out mine. The gray metallic with clear. The powder coater did a great job.



Yeah that def. looks sleeper, i not sure i want to stay grey though.

What did it cost u to get it powdered?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: NaturalRaptor on January 15, 2010, 08:51:27 PM
It was $125 check out my thread it has the before and after pics on the scale.

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3990.0
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 09:55:13 PM
It was $125 check out my thread it has the before and after pics on the scale.

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3990.0

I wonder what the ladder swingers wiegh? less than 11lbs?

I'll get mine weighed out tomorrow. I put in some extra bracing, but its a +3 so i imagine it's going to be about same as yours.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: russ-russ on January 15, 2010, 10:45:44 PM
Awesome job!  That looks badass.  I like that you kept the external bracing. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 15, 2010, 10:51:39 PM
Awesome job!  That looks badass.  I like that you kept the external bracing. :thumbs:

Yeah, i love how it looks with the external bracing still there. Kinda "fastback" like, or "sabretooth"...

Plus adds a Ton of Strength.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 19, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
Finally got some more done :thumbs:

If you look close u can see where its welded
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00911.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00919.jpg)

Taking a look from the rear
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00921.jpg)

How to mix paint in Mo.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00927.jpg)

Primer!
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00931.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00934.jpg)

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 19, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
Here it is painted, we went to the local moto shop and got it weighed.

We used Rustoleum Hammered Black, it worked freakin awesome for blending the transition from the smooth to the rough cast. It looks like its all cast and we just painted it...amazing stuff, they should call it Rustoleum "Casting Look" paint.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00943.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00942.jpg)

Started reinstalling, found out i F**ked up an o-ring. I'll have to replace it befor i finish.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/sweatpea5802/DSC00948.jpg)
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Shawnz on January 19, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
When does mass production start?   Oh and where does the line start?   :lol:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: russ-russ on January 19, 2010, 10:54:16 PM
Yea!  Looks totally badass.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: fireman5166 on January 20, 2010, 01:41:48 AM
When does mass production start?   Oh and where does the line start?   :lol:

I second that and how much  :nod:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Peelz on January 20, 2010, 06:42:20 AM
nice work!!!!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Shawnz on January 20, 2010, 01:19:11 PM
any chance of re-locating or just adding the forward skid bolt bosses so that you can still use a skid plate?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 20, 2010, 04:47:20 PM
any chance of re-locating or just adding the forward skid bolt bosses so that you can still use a skid plate?

I removed the old holes, welded them up, and buffed em down where u cant tell they were even there. Then i drilled and tapped 2 new holes. So yeah, its going to have the skid mounted back up after the shock is in place :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Firemann32 on January 20, 2010, 09:37:32 PM
Ok, so without reading through all 5 pages, is there someone on this site that is doing them, I have 2 spare swingarms, I'd like to get at least one if not both extended.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Krandall on January 21, 2010, 08:52:22 AM
When does mass production start?   Oh and where does the line start?   :lol:

+1

Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: SprinterX on January 21, 2010, 01:22:59 PM
Ok, so without reading through all 5 pages, is there someone on this site that is doing them, I have 2 spare swingarms, I'd like to get at least one if not both extended.

King of Bling from the other two Raptor sites can hook you up with extending your stock swinger. There was a group buy last year on them. I had a +4 done for my sand set-up and the work is nice.

dpe_ele's work here looks excellent too. :thumbs:
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Post by: Shawnz on January 21, 2010, 01:40:28 PM
didn't KoB quit doing them?
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Post by: Firemann32 on January 21, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Ok, so without reading through all 5 pages, is there someone on this site that is doing them, I have 2 spare swingarms, I'd like to get at least one if not both extended.

King of Bling from the other two Raptor sites can hook you up with extending your stock swinger. There was a group buy last year on them. I had a +4 done for my sand set-up and the work is nice.

dpe_ele's work here looks excellent too. :thumbs:
Yea I saw that post so I went and logged on to Modded Raptor to look through it.

didn't KoB quit doing them?
Well that sucks if he did, I guess I'll just PM him and find out.........

If you guys think of anyone else let me know, Thanks!
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Post by: Out Back Welding on January 21, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
 8) Thx for all the complements!

I got my spring and o-ring in today, should have everything togeather tomarrow :thumbs:

We would love to make more of these, should have made a jig.... :'(

We used all my dads tools to do this, complements of Out Back Aluminum Welding!

We were giving some thought as to how much to charge for something like this. This wouldnt be something that We could do in the summer, due to the fact that Out Back is booked with work during that time.

So what do u guys think something like this would be worth shipped back to your door? Top dollar? Would it be easier to just swap cores?

I see stock swingers for sale on ebay from $50-100.
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Post by: Firemann32 on January 21, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
8) Thx for all the complements!

I got my spring and o-ring in today, should have everything togeather tomarrow :thumbs:

We would love to make more of these, should have made a jig.... :'(

We used all my dads tools to do this, complements of Out Back Aluminum Welding!

We were giving some thought as to how much to charge for something like this. This wouldnt be something that We could do in the summer, due to the fact that Out Back is booked with work during that time.

So what do u guys think something like this would be worth shipped back to your door? Top dollar? Would it be easier to just swap cores?

I see stock swingers for sale on ebay from $50-100.


If you start making them, I'll be first in line and I'll send you two swingarms, one to do for me and one for you to keep as your "core". :)

Let me know when/if you start doing them.
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Post by: Firemann32 on January 21, 2010, 09:28:04 PM

Well crap I went back and started looking at the pictures and then it dawned on me your doing them for a 700 and I'm still really partial to my 660.  If you start making them for the 660's my offer stands.
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Post by: SprinterX on January 22, 2010, 04:42:26 AM
didn't KoB quit doing them?

It wasn't actually KoB that was doing the work. I believe it was a buddy of his from Cycle Works. I'd be surprised if he wouldn't do any more.
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Post by: Colorado700R on January 22, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
I sent KOB a PM on MR about a week ago and he was still intrested in doing them.
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Post by: Firemann32 on January 22, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
I sent KOB a PM on MR about a week ago and he was still intrested in doing them.

Told me the same.

I am and its $275 plus return shipping usually like to do it by check or cashiers check to keep from getting beat up on paypal fees. we can do 3 or 4 inch may try to do a 2 inch again not sure if it will work.about a 2-3 day turn around on them.

Thanks Robert
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Post by: Shawnz on January 22, 2010, 03:15:46 PM
I smell a group buy - lol
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Post by: Out Back Welding on January 22, 2010, 05:35:11 PM
I sent KOB a PM on MR about a week ago and he was still intrested in doing them.

Told me the same.

I am and its $275 plus return shipping usually like to do it by check or cashiers check to keep from getting beat up on paypal fees. we can do 3 or 4 inch may try to do a 2 inch again not sure if it will work.about a 2-3 day turn around on them.

Thanks Robert

wow! $275! thats cheap. I'ts alot of work to do this.
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Post by: Out Back Welding on January 22, 2010, 10:17:59 PM
Finished putting it all back togeather.  :jaw: Thing is freaking awesome!

Between the 15t front sprocket, the new spring/rebuild/revalve, and the +3 swinger....I dont know what to go on about first..Im impressed with all three new mods :thumbs:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Shawnz on January 22, 2010, 11:04:29 PM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 22, 2010, 11:20:01 PM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: SprinterX on January 23, 2010, 03:21:36 AM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.

Take note when looking for an aftermarket brake line. You want one where the bango fittings are at 90* to each other.
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Post by: Out Back Welding on January 23, 2010, 07:43:16 AM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.

Take note when looking for an aftermarket brake line. You want one where the bango fittings are at 90* to each other.


I'll have to double check who i got mine from but u buy the bango's seperately, and you just screw them on at any angle u want :thumbs:
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Post by: SprinterX on January 23, 2010, 06:25:10 PM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.

Take note when looking for an aftermarket brake line. You want one where the bango fittings are at 90* to each other.


I'll have to double check who i got mine from but u buy the bango's seperately, and you just screw them on at any angle u want :thumbs:

That's great, mine were swagged the same and I had to twist them slightly to fit. Good thing I bought one that was a little extra lengthy.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 23, 2010, 08:16:34 PM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.

Take note when looking for an aftermarket brake line. You want one where the bango fittings are at 90* to each other.


I'll have to double check who i got mine from but u buy the bango's seperately, and you just screw them on at any angle u want :thumbs:

That's great, mine were swagged the same and I had to twist them slightly to fit. Good thing I bought one that was a little extra lengthy.



Yeah mines a little lengthy aswell.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Krandall on January 25, 2010, 12:25:48 PM
Did the stock brake line work?    Do you think it'd work if you would have went +4?

Thanks,

Shawn
                                                                 

 I checked to see if the stock lines would have worked, they won't, even on a +3.

Doesn't work on a +2 either. :)
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 25, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
I did find out today that with the +3 you can still stand it straight up on the rear grab bar and tires no problem.
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Post by: Out Back Welding on May 14, 2010, 01:40:59 PM
Few little more updated pics. Everything holds up great!

People say: "You welded that? You can't even tell..."

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Post by: Krandall on May 14, 2010, 02:41:49 PM
That really turned out great!!!!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Firemann32 on June 10, 2010, 06:51:02 PM
So when do you wanna do my 660's?
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on June 23, 2012, 07:02:39 PM
Still Holding up great :thumbs: not even one hair line crack! Meanwhile I've created like 30+ of these, and no problems eather :thumbs: I Got a few different pics on Facebook in the photo section. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Out-Back-Aluminum-Welding/311318575581856
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Post by: zx10r203 on August 20, 2012, 02:03:10 AM
Whats the pricing on these??
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on August 25, 2012, 05:05:18 PM
Whats the pricing on these??

Varies, Most are $300.00 shipped  :thumbs:

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Post by: 700craptor on October 13, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
i want one please? +3 will be nice.
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Post by: 700craptor on October 13, 2012, 05:52:17 PM
how muck for powder coat and do you do brake lines too?
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Post by: MORAPTOR700 on October 13, 2012, 06:33:56 PM
how muck for powder coat and do you do brake lines too?

I purchased a +3 brake line and it look all crap, so I just purchased some line and fittings and made my own and it looks a lot better. So I guess what I'm saying is purchase your own stuff and make it.
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Post by: 700craptor on October 13, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
one more question. does the skid plate still fit?
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Post by: MORAPTOR700 on October 13, 2012, 07:30:28 PM
one more question. does the skid plate still fit?

yes but you have to drill 2 holes for the front 2 bolts. I tigged a couple of 3/4" circle pieces of aluminum to swinger where it bolts to give it some more meat for the bolts to thread into.
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Post by: 700craptor on October 13, 2012, 09:21:23 PM
Very smart idea. Thanks hopefully outback can do the same for me
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Post by: Out Back Welding on October 19, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
one more question. does the skid plate still fit?

yes but you have to drill 2 holes for the front 2 bolts. I tigged a couple of 3/4" circle pieces of aluminum to swinger where it bolts to give it some more meat for the bolts to thread into.

I weld in new boss's. I use 5/8" round stock and cut 3/4"...drill,tap, ect.. so you have lots of threads to work with!!

These are well built all around :)

thx, Darryll
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Post by: Out Back Welding on October 19, 2012, 08:14:49 PM
oh...and I do this for no additional charge :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: zx10r203 on January 28, 2013, 02:01:49 PM
I am thinking of getting a +4 or longer and really thinking of pulling the trigger and getting this done on my 09 700SE

I have a few questions to make sure that I can get all the needed parts for the project with the budget I have on hand now. Have a trip coming soon and don't want any issues and hold ups. 


What chain to get? I have no knowledge on type and length. Ride mostly on sand!

Rear brake line? I see TQS sells the Galfer Brake Line ($49.00) in a +4 length, will that work?

Rear brake parking cable? not really worried about that.  I am sure I can come up with something.

Anything else that I may need for the +4 setup besides the +4 swing arm???


Thanks in advance!!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Krandall on January 29, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
I'm yet to see an extended parking cable, so you may have to get ninja with that (moving the parking brake elsewhere).
My suggestion would be to buy a 120link chain and cut it down to what you need vs trying to find a specific / perfect length one. Way eaiser :)

If you ride mostly sand, I know duners opt for the non-oring chains. I still always prefered the X ring chains.

I'd have to do some looking, but I believe the +4 line is actually a bit longer than what you need. But I can't remember 100% for sure.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: zx10r203 on January 29, 2013, 12:28:09 PM
I'm yet to see an extended parking cable, so you may have to get ninja with that (moving the parking brake elsewhere).
My suggestion would be to buy a 120link chain and cut it down to what you need vs trying to find a specific / perfect length one. Way eaiser :)

If you ride mostly sand, I know duners opt for the non-oring chains. I still always prefered the X ring chains.

I'd have to do some looking, but I believe the +4 line is actually a bit longer than what you need. But I can't remember 100% for sure.

Not to worried about the cable, I am sure I can come up with something. 

I went to the Galfer website and I can order a brake line to the exact size I'll need since I am still unsure it will be a +4 or longer swing arm.

Either way thanks for the help!!!
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: MORAPTOR700 on January 29, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Motion Pro cable make you a e-brake cable last I heard it was about 35.00. For you brake line I ordered some S.S brake line, and some fitting and made my own line and it was cheap to do and looks great.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on January 29, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
Motion Pro cable make you a e-brake cable last I heard it was about 35.00. For you brake line I ordered some S.S brake line, and some fitting and made my own line and it was cheap to do and looks great.

Spot on. Thats what I did.

The motion pro broke after 1 year of use... put the stock cable back on. Relocating it to the frame(left side).

I just got a long chain and cut it down.. as krandal said :thumbs: Don't buy China!  BUY Taiwan or Japanese :)

Darryll


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Post by: Out Back Welding on January 29, 2013, 07:19:45 PM
Kinda cool to look back at this Topic.

I'm WAY better at these now.. I believe I've done 50 or so..

Darryll


Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: zx10r203 on February 09, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
Swing arm on its way to you OUTBACK!! Can't wait to see the finished swing arm.
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on February 12, 2013, 04:53:59 PM
Swing arm on its way to you OUTBACK!! Can't wait to see the finished swing arm.

Awesome!  8)  looking forward to it!!  :clap:

I've got quite a few I need to do. Hard to decipher,lol. Whats your real life name?  :) :)

Darryll
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: zx10r203 on February 13, 2013, 01:08:18 AM
Swing arm on its way to you OUTBACK!! Can't wait to see the finished swing arm.

Awesome!  8)  looking forward to it!!  :clap:

I've got quite a few I need to do. Hard to decipher,lol. Whats your real life name?  :) :)

Darryll

Philip Vieira
Title: Re: Extended stock swinger PICS!
Post by: Out Back Welding on February 15, 2013, 02:21:53 PM
COOL!

Glad you signed up when you did. I got 6+ to do after yours!!

Darryll